“Drew Snyder and William Ballentine had a commitment ceremony with all the trimmings four years ago, the closest they could get to a wedding at the time.”
No. The closest they could get would be to register as “Domestic Partners.” But mentioning that simple fact would throw Lisa Lepp, the credited author of this AP stinkbomb off her game.
“Now that California’s highest court has held that two men may be legally married starting later this month, friends want to know when the Los Angeles couple plan to take their relationship to the next level.
The answer: Not any time soon.
The problem is a citizen referendum on the November ballot that would overturn the state Supreme Court’s landmark decision that denying gay couples the right to wed was discriminatory. It means same-sex couples face the uncertainty of whether they would still be legally wed if the ballot measure were to pass.
No thanks, say Ballentine and Snyder. Better to wait until after the election, when they will know whether voters have allowed gay marriages to go ahead.”
The truth of course is they can get married after June 17. But Lisa Lepp of the AP can’t handle the truth.
“If they were to say no and we hadn’t gotten married, we could live with that,” said Ballentine, a 31-year-old mortgage banker. “If we did get married and that happened, it would add insult to injury.”
“Why go through it all and have that disappointment?” agreed Snyder, 37, a real estate agent.
The ballot initiative, known as the California Marriage Protection Act, would amend the state constitution to “provide that only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.” Its language was taken directly from a gay marriage ban enacted by voters in 2000, one of two the Supreme Court majority found unconstitutional and struck down in its May 17 decision.
The phrase “valid or recognized” is what worries some same-sex marriage supporters
What a pathetic pair. Faint heart never won fair boyfriend. And your assumption that the ballot measure is going to win is part and parcel of the crippling infereriority complex so many gays and lesbians have been programmed to feel since childhood.
It’s why the Gay Rights movement was created. We must fight for our rights. We must never surrender.
Especially to the likes of Lisa Lepp.
The question is how, if the amendment passes, the state would treat marriage licenses issued between June 16 – when the high court’s ruling takes effect at 5 p.m. – and Election Day.
Shannon Minter, who successfully argued the case as legal director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights, said licenses that thousands of same-sex couples are expected to seek during the five-month window would not be rendered void automatically.
Rather, it would be up to the measure’s sponsors or another party to seek to have them nullified through additional litigation, according to Minter. He doubts the courts would go for it.
“There is no precedent for taking away someone’s married status retroactively. It just has never been done before, and the practical consequences would be unimaginably devastating,” Minter said.
Nevertheless, it could take years of legal wrangling before couples know their unions are secure.
Not at all YOU STUPID CUNT!! Did you actually read the ruling? It’s quite clear. State Law demands equality. And if marital equality is to be denied for one marriage is to be denied for all.
“Glen Lavy, senior counsel with the Alliance Defense Fund, a Christian legal firm that argued for upholding California’s one man-one woman marriage laws, said that if his firm didn’t try to have the initiative apply to existing marriages, it’s only a matter of time before someone else did.
“It is inevitable that when the marriage amendment passes in November there will be a cloud on the validity of any same-sex marriage license that is issued,” he said.”
Notice how the scumbag phrases it? “When” — not “if.” And Lisa Lepp goes right along, searching out sobbing gay and lesbian victims to justify it, rather than —
Such gloomy forecasts have Karen Bowen, 48, and Beth Gerstein, 47, mothers of two who live in Berkeley, thinking long and hard about getting married. They have been together nearly 20 years and were among the 4,000 who joyfully wed at San Francisco City Hall in early 2004 after Mayor Gavin Newsom decided to challenge state law by extending marriage licenses to same-sex couples.
“It seemed really clear to us it was a political statement. It wasn’t going to last,” said Bowen.
Six months later, when the Supreme Court voided all the unions sanctioned by the city, “it was still very painful,” she added. “It will be even worse were we to have these dashed hopes, to get married without it really counting.”
Gerstein and Bowen do intend to tie the knot some time before November.
“I want for our kids to know we are part of a movement that I think of as historic,” Gerstein said. “Even if it doesn’t work out, I’ll get married as many times as it takes because we should be able to get married.”
Good. That’s why “political statements” DO last.
Douglas Kmiec, a Pepperdine University constitutional law professor who filed a brief urging the Supreme Court to reserve marriage for a man and a woman, agrees that what will become of the same-sex marriages sanctioned in the coming months “is open to debate” if the amendment passes.
Kmiec predicts the outcome eventually will be decided in favor of gay couples by the Supreme Court. Just this past week, the court refused to grant a request to delay the issuance of marriage licenses.
“If they were concerned about the validity of those public acts, they would have been more inclined to put matters on hold,” Kmiec said. “They fully realize people are going to be relying on these public licenses, changing their plans and planning their futures in relation to this authority.”
Precisely. So what’s Lisa Leff’s point?
(crickets chirping )
And now a lovely son by Randy Newman about “traditonal marriage.”
“Here’s an old, old story
‘Bout a man and a woman
Gone off to California
‘Cause they just got married
All their friends in Boston
Are so very happy
They’re dancing in the doorways
‘Cause their friends got married
He gets a job
Working in a car wash up in Santa Cruz
She gets a job
Teaching at a nursery school
Oh, they’re so nice
What’s gonna happen to ‘em?
Soon they have a little white-haired baby
Looks just like his daddy
And they’re all real happy
A couple of year go by
She’s going to see the doctor
It’s just a regular checkup (oh no)
Plus she thinks she might be pregnant
Anyway, she dies
And he moves down to Los Angeles
Meets some foolish young girl with lots of money
Now they’re getting married “