Well there you have it, folks, Tony Kusher explaining to Tom O’Neill that you won’t find any strange twilight urges in Lincoln because “I don’t feel that there was any evidence at this particular moment that Lincoln was having sex with anybody.”
“He seems to have not slept and taken no time off during this period …. I don’t say in my movie whether the Lincoln character was gay or straight. You can ask Daniel (Day-Lewis) what he was playing, but it did not seem to me a thing to make a movie about now.”
Thus discouraging braver and more resolute souls from making a movie about it EVER.
Surely Daniel Day-Lewis was more than up to the task of playing Lincoln gay.
Maybe he’ll be available for a movie version of The American People by
whose righteously enraged screams re the above interview clip I can hear even as I post.
(Back to Tony)
“As for the Lincoln was gay rumors, Kushner said, “I personally believe that there is some reason to speculate that Lincoln might have been bisexual or gay.” One of the reasons is that Lincoln shared a bed with his bodyguard, prompting gossip that the men were involved. But even if Lincoln was indeed playing for the other team, Kushner has no doubt that he and wife Mary Todd were deeply in love.”
And so the author of Angels in America buys into the Doxa that heterosexuality is a self-eveident truth whereas Teh Ghey is invariably “speculation.”
By his own standards there is no evidence that Abraham Lincoln loved Mary Todd at all.
“These two people loved each other,” said Kushner. “It wouldn’t be the first time that a gay man and a straight woman hooked up and had a great marriage. But I don’t know. I really don’t know.”
“The sexual orientation of Abraham Lincoln is a topic of debate among some scholars. While Lincoln was married to Mary Todd from November 4, 1842, until his death on April 15, 1865, and fathered four children with her, psychologist C. A. Tripp has observed that Lincoln’s problematic and distant relationship with women stood in contrast to his more warm relations with a number of men in his life and that two of those relationships had possible homosexual overtones Some Lincoln biographers, including David Herbert Donald, have strongly contested these claims. As an astute politician, Lincoln was a man with many friends, Donald says. In countering claims of homosexuality, Donald cites Lincoln’s letters, in which he frequently refers to acquaintances, even political enemies, as “my personal friend”.
“In his 1926 biography of Lincoln, Carl Sandburg made an allusion to the early relationship of Lincoln and his friend Joshua Fry Speed as having “a streak of lavender, and spots soft as May violets”.
Josh was quite the Babe!
“Lincoln wrote a poem that described a marriage-like relation between two men, which included the lines:
“For Reuben and Charles have married two girls,
But Billy has married a boy.
The girls he had tried on every side,
But none he could get to agree;
All was in vain, he went home again,
And since that he’s married to Natty.”
NOW we’re gettin’ down to business!
“This poem was included in the first edition of Herndon’s Life of Lincoln, but was expurgated from subsequent editions until 1942, when the editor Paul Angle restored it. This is an example of what Mark Blechner calls “the closeting of history” in which evidence that suggests a degree of homosexuality or bisexuality in a major historical figure is suppressed or hidden.”
SING OUT LOUISE!!!!!
“C. A. Tripp, who died in 2003, was a sex researcher and protégé of Alfred Kinsey. He began writing The Intimate World of Abraham Lincoln with Philip Nobile until a falling out between them. The New York Times quoted Nobile saying “Tripp’s book is a fraud”, noting that Nobile “declined to say what was fraudulent, however, because he said he was writing his own article about it”.Nobile went on to write a critical review of Tripp’s book in the Weekly Standard, in which he accused the Tripp book of plagiarizing his own work, of relying heavily on Charles Shiveley without proper attribution and of distortion. Noblie’s book on Lincoln has never appeared, but he did go on to meet further controversy of his own, involving allegedly wrongful accusations by Nobile of his superiors’ involvement in a cheating scheme. “
IOW, When Queens Collide.
“Tripp’s book includes an afterword by historian and Lincoln biographer Michael Burlingame titled “A Respectful Dissent”, in which he states:
“Since it is virtually impossible to prove a negative, Dr. Tripp’s thesis cannot be rejected outright. But given the paucity of hard information adduced by him, and given the abundance of contrary evidence indicating that Lincoln was drawn romantically and sexually to some women, a reasonable conclusion, it seems to me, would be that it is possible but highly unlikely that Abraham Lincoln was “predominantly homosexual.”
IOW, S.O.B. (standard operational bullshit)
“In a second afterword to the book titled “An Enthusiastic Endorsement”, historian Michael B. Chesson makes the argument for the historical significance of the work:
“Tripp, for all his research, sophistication, and insight, has not proved his case conclusively. … But any open-minded reader who has reached this point may well have a reasonable doubt about the nature of Lincoln’s sexuality. The “Tall Sucker” was a very strange man, one of the strangest in American history, and certainly the oddest to reach a position of national prominence, let alone the presidency. If Lincoln was a homosexual, or primarily so inclined, then suddenly our image of this mysterious man gains some clarity. Not everything falls into place. But many things do, including some important, even essential, elements of who Lincoln was, why he acted in the way he did, and a possible reason for his sadness, loneliness, and secretive nature.”
Abe’s Got A Secret!
“Since about 1981, author and gay activist Larry Kramer has been researching and writing a manuscript called The American People: A History, an ambitious historical work that begins in the Stone Age and continues into the present. In 1999 Kramer claimed that he had uncovered new primary sources which shed fresh light on Lincoln’s sexuality. The sources included a hitherto unknown Joshua Speed diary and letters in which Speed writes explicitly about his relationship with Lincoln. These items were supposedly discovered hidden beneath the floorboards of the old store where the two men lived, and are said to reside in a private collection in Davenport, Iowa. Historian Gabor Boritt, referring to Kramer’s documents, wrote, “Almost certainly this is a hoax …”. Tripp also expressed skepticism over Kramer’s discovery, writing, “Seeing is believing, should that diary ever show up; the passages claimed for it have not the slightest Lincolnian ring.” Publisher Farrar, Straus and Giroux announced in September 2010 that it had acquired worldwide rights to the book and plans to publish it in two volumes beginning in 2012.”
Larry, we’re all trembling with antici-
As for Gabor Boritt, many people claimed AIDS was a hoax too
But as that poem he wrote (see above) shows the truth about Abraham Lincoln has always been screamingly obvious.
And in honor of that poem Frances Faye will sing us out